Discord went from gaming chat to a place where creators run full businesses. Private servers sell education, alpha, coaching, signals, and memberships. Payments happen right where conversations do, and the tool you use decides how easy it is to monetize, manage subscriptions, and keep revenue predictable.
That's where this split appears: wallet-only bots vs full subscription systems.
Wallet-only bots focus on taking a crypto payment and giving access. Full systems run the entire lifecycle: onboarding, renewals, reminders, access control, analytics, and payouts across Discord and Telegram. One just processes a transaction. The other helps you run an actual business.
IsoSubs lives in the first category. Suby lives in the second.
Your choice depends on the audience you want to reach and how serious you are about recurring revenue.
TL;DR (for operators choosing between wallet-only and full-stack systems)
- IsoSubs is wallet-only. It works for small, crypto-native Discord Payment Bot servers, but it stops there; no cards, no analytics, limited renewals, limited automation. Everything from assigning roles to managing expiries still often happens manually, which limits growth, adds friction, and filters out non-crypto audiences who would otherwise subscribe.
- Suby is full-stack and built for scale. It automates payments, renewals, and access across Discord and Telegram, supports wallet, exchange, and card payments, and includes analytics, trials, discounts, and referrals. Suby bridges Web2 and crypto so creators can grow faster, retain members effortlessly, and turn servers into predictable, recurring-revenue businesses, not manual admin hubs.
The Evolution of Discord Payment Bots
From tip bots to subscription infrastructure
At the start, Discord payment bots were basically tip jars. Send SOL here. Paste TX hash. Get a role if the admin is awake.
That flow was fine for pure crypto communities where everyone already held tokens. But then the model changed. Servers stopped being fan clubs and started acting like products. People began selling structured access, private research, trading calls, tools, mentorship, and live support.
Now a "paid server" is not a one-time ticket. It is a subscription. It needs to manage multiple users, multiple plans, renewals, discounts, trials, referrals, and churn.
Creators hit a wall when they tried to run that manually:
- Someone pays in crypto
- They DM proof
- You assign a Discord role
- You try to remember in 30 days to remove it
This does not scale. By 2025, the standard is automated access, card-like simplicity, and reminders that keep members active without you chasing them.
The two paths: wallet-only vs full-stack
Two types of systems emerged.
- Wallet-only bots
- Focused on crypto deposits
- Fast to set up in a Discord server
- Lightweight, but limited
- Full-stack subscription systems
- Multiple payment methods
- Automated role management and renewals
- Analytics, referrals, trials, reminders
- Works across Discord and Telegram
IsoSubs is in the first camp. Suby is in the second.
If you just want to collect crypto inside Discord and you do not care about conversion beyond that, IsoSubs will function.
If you want stable, compounding subscription revenue and less manual work, you want the second model.
What IsoSubs Does: The Wallet-Only Model
Simple setup for crypto-native members
IsoSubs is made for servers where everyone already understands crypto. A user pays with a wallet, and the bot is aware of that payment. The funds move directly to the owner. There is no complicated dashboard. Everything is inside Discord.
That simplicity can be attractive if your audience already lives in that world. If your server is 100 percent traders who already have assets on chain, they can send funds and expect to be added to a private channel.
For a small group, that is enough.
Where IsoSubs falls short for modern communities
Most paid servers today are not pure crypto. They blend traders, builders, students, researchers, and people who are just joining for education or signals.
That means your members do not all want to pay in the same way. This is where friction starts with a wallet-only Discord bot.
Gaps you hit with IsoSubs:
- No card-like experience for people who do not hold crypto yet
- No direct deposit method from big exchanges like Bybit or Binance
- No subscription analytics dashboard
- No reporting on renewals or churn
- No structured trials or discounts
- Limited renewal reminders and automation compared to full systems
- Basic automated role assignment and removal, but limited customization
- Discord only, no Telegram server integration, no cross platform sync
It also does not offer paylinks you can drop on socials or in your bio to monetize outside Discord. You basically rely on being inside the server already.
When you add all that up, you get lower conversion for new members and more moderator work for every renewal cycle.
The result: limited growth and high overhead
Wallet-only works when:
- You trust everyone
- You are fine doing checks manually
- You do not care about conversion outside hardcore crypto
But the model starts cracking the moment you try to scale. You spend time verifying every transaction. You spend time fixing roles. You chase renewals in DMs. You have no view of which plan is actually performing.
That time cost is the real fee.
Suby: The Modern Subscription System for Discord and Telegram
Built for real subscription businesses
Suby is not just a Discord payment bot. It is a full subscription layer for Discord and Telegram built around one goal: attract, retain, monetize.
Attract new members Retain current members Monetize with reliable payments in crypto
Suby supports wallet payments and deposit payments. Deposit is important. It lets people pay from existing wallets and from exchanges they already use. That makes onboarding easier for people who are not deep in crypto.
On top of that, Suby links payments to access automatically and keeps that access in sync with renewals. Members pay, they get in, they renew, they stay in. If they stop paying, they are removed.
This is how you keep a premium server clean without being online 24/7.
Why Suby works for both crypto and non-crypto audiences
Your server is not one type of person. You may have analysts, new traders, investors, mentees, buyers who saw you on X, and lurkers who want a trial before committing.
Suby meets them where they are.
- Members can pay using Wallet Connect, which supports 100+ wallets
- Members can pay using Deposit, which works with major exchanges and existing wallets by simply sending crypto to the right address
- Supported assets include USDC, USDT, ETH, SOL, BNB
- Supported networks include Solana, Base, Arbitrum, Ethereum, and Binance Smart Chain
Base is especially important. A large share of current volume on Suby runs through Base, because fees are low and settlement is fast.
You are not forcing one currency or one chain. You are meeting demand.
The full revenue loop: attract, retain, monetize
Suby is not just collecting payment. It is locking in a revenue loop:
Attract
- Paylinks you can drop on X, in bio, in DMs
- Free trials that let someone test your premium channel before paying
- Referrals so members can bring in more members
Retain
- Smart renewal reminders inside Discord and Telegram
- Grace windows to fix failed payments without drama
- Auto-kick for expired access, which protects the value of the group
- Discount codes for returning members or long-term users
Monetize
- Flexible pricing from daily to yearly
- Full analytics dashboard to track subscriptions, churn, and plan performance
- Automatic role assignment in Discord and automatic invite handling in Telegram
- Owner notifications when someone subscribes, renews, or cancels
That matters because stable recurring subscriptions are what turn a server into a real business instead of a one-time cash grab.
IsoSubs vs Suby – Feature by Feature
IsoSubs processes a payment. Suby runs the business around that payment.
Why Wallet-Only Is No Longer Enough
Mixed audiences need flexible payments
Not everyone in your Discord server already keeps SOL or ETH in a hot wallet. Some keep stablecoins on an exchange. Some need a simpler payment flow that feels similar to a checkout.
If you force one payment path, you lose people who were ready to subscribe.
When the goal is to monetize a server, not just run a crypto club, you need more than a wallet address.
Manual operations kill retention
If you manage access by hand, you eventually fall behind. A member renews and waits for a role. Someone forgets to renew and still keeps access for free. Someone claims they paid but you cannot verify it quickly.
That creates two real problems:
- You lose trust, because paying members notice non-paying members still inside
- You lose time, because you are doing support instead of creating
Suby fixes this with instant unlocks after payment, auto-removal if a renewal is missed, and reminders that go out directly in Discord or Telegram before access expires.
Guessing is expensive
Without analytics you are blind. IsoSubs does not give you churn, trial conversion, or plan performance.
Suby gives you a dashboard with revenue, renewals, and plan data you can export. You can tell which subscription length converts better. You can tell if a discount code helped. You can tell which referral partner is actually monetizing your server.
This turns your server into something you can optimize instead of something you just hope works.
How Suby Onboarding Actually Feels for a Member
The subscription flow on Discord
- You set up a public channel like #subscription.
- Suby posts a Subscribe button with all active plans and pricing.
- A user clicks their plan.
- They enter their email and confirm with an OTP code.
- They choose how they want to pay:
- Connect Wallet to sign and pay
- Deposit using crypto from an exchange or any wallet
- They pick a network like Solana, Base, Arbitrum, Ethereum, or BSC and choose a token like USDC, USDT, ETH, SOL, or BNB.
- Payment is confirmed.
- The paid role is assigned instantly.
No screenshots. No tickets. No waiting for a moderator.
Renewal reminders and access control after that are automated.
The subscription flow on Telegram
- You create your plan in Suby and link it to Telegram.
- Suby helps you create a private portal channel that acts as your public entry point.
- A potential subscriber taps Subscribe in the portal.
- The bot walks them through email login and payment.
- Once payment clears, the bot gives them a personal join link into the private group.
On Telegram, the bot can remove users who stop paying. On Discord, the bot can auto-kick expired members and clean up roles. In both cases, it keeps your premium space actually premium.
How Creators Set Up Suby
Step 1: Create your plan
You define:
- Group name and logo
- Plan name
- Description
- Price (you can set it in USD terms or set it directly in crypto, like 1 SOL per month)
- Billing cycle (daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, biannual, yearly)
- Which token and chain you want to accept
- Which wallet receives funds
- Your support contact
Step 2: Pick your platform
Choose Discord or Telegram. You can run both.
Step 3: Link the bot
On Discord:
- Link Suby to your server
- Run /start
- Use /setuprole to map your plan ID to a paid role
- Use /setupreminders to set a public reminders channel
- Use /setupsubscription to create your subscription channel and get the Subscribe button in there
On Telegram:
- Add the Suby bot as admin in your private group
- Grant it the right permissions
- Run /setup to link your plan
- Use the portal channel as your shareable entry point
From there, new members subscribe, get added, and stay in as long as the subscription is active.
You get notified on new subs, renewals, and cancels. You can also use discount codes, trials, and referrals to drive conversion during launches or market pushes.
This is designed so you do not need to manage members in spreadsheets or verify transactions manually.
Fees and Structure
IsoSubs charges around 3 percent. You still have to run most of the operations by hand.
Suby charges around 1.5 percent. In return, you get automated access control, reminders, trials, discount codes, referral mechanics, multi-chain payment support, Telegram and Discord support, and an analytics dashboard for revenue and churn.
When you scale, that difference matters. The money you save is not just the lower fee. It is the hours you stop burning in DMs.
Security and Custody
Both IsoSubs and Suby follow a non-custodial model. Funds route to the creator's wallet. You remain in control of your money.
Suby supports tokens like USDC, USDT, ETH, SOL, and BNB across networks such as Solana, Base, Arbitrum, Ethereum, and Binance Smart Chain. For most communities, that gives enough flexibility to price plans in a stable currency like USDC, still get paid in crypto, and stay in control.
Payments are transparent and verifiable, and Suby surfaces that activity with context through its dashboard so you can resolve questions fast.
The User Experience Difference
IsoSubs: Wallet-only automation
- A member pays via wallet deposit
- IsoSubs automatically assigns the Discord role
- When the plan expires, access is revoked automatically
Since IsoSubs supports only wallet deposits, members who prefer exchange or card payments can't join easily. That creates a natural ceiling on growth.
Suby: Full payment automation
- A member subscribes using Wallet Signature, Wallet Deposit, Exchange Deposit, or Card
- Suby assigns the Discord role instantly or delivers the Telegram invite link
- Renewal reminders are sent before expiry
- If payment doesn't renew, Suby auto-kicks after the grace period
- Members can return and rejoin through the same paylink anytime
Suby goes beyond wallet automation, it handles renewals, reminders, and multiple payment methods. That means broader reach, cleaner operations, and instant access for every paying member.
Where Each Bot Makes Sense
IsoSubs is for
- A small, tight crypto-native Discord server
- Owners who only want to accept direct wallet payments
- Communities that are fine doing everything manually in exchange for having a basic setup
If that is you and you are not chasing growth, IsoSubs can work.
Suby is for
- Creators who treat their Discord or Telegram like a subscription business
- Teams who want to monetize, retain, and get predictable recurring payments
- Communities with mixed audiences, not just crypto veterans
- Anyone who wants lower churn and less manual moderation
- Anyone who wants a dashboard to track revenue, renewals, and plan health
If you are trying to actually scale, Suby is built for that.
Final Word
A Discord server with subscriptions is not just a chat room anymore. It is a product. It has pricing, onboarding, retention, and churn. It has a pipeline of new members and a base of paying members who expect clean access.
IsoSubs treats the server like a wallet transaction inside Discord.
Suby treats the server like a recurring business across Discord and Telegram.
Here is the practical difference.
IsoSubs helps you collect a payment.
Suby helps you attract new members with paylinks and referrals, convert them with trials and flexible payment methods, assign roles instantly, process renewals in crypto across multiple chains, send reminders, auto-kick expired accounts, and understand churn with an analytics dashboard.
In simple terms: IsoSubs manages a transaction. Suby manages subscriptions.
If you are serious about building a community that keeps growing, protects access, and turns attention into consistent revenue, you want automation, subscription control, insight, and reach. You want payments that work for crypto users and people who are brand new.
That is the difference between running a busy server and running an actual business.